- They are pretty good. They have a CE Critic score of 85% so at that price they should do well. 
- Closed back is thumbs down for me. - Then why are you here? 
 
- All hifiman closed backs atm sound really awful - I’ve had the J.M. Audio mod of the Hifiman HE-R9 closed backs for a few months now and they are freaking awesome. A worthy alternative to my Edition XS. 
- I have the r10D definitely a little wonky sounding but great technicals and soundstage. If you eq at all they’re pretty great 
- How many pairs of Hifiman do you own? I have the HE5XX and I really enjoy them. The only complaint I have is they are a little loose but I only listen to them in my “easy” chair plugged into my Schiit Stack so not a big deal. I replaced the stock cable but that was primarily just because I didn’t like the texture or the length. 
- HE-R10 sounds amazing (heard them in May in Munich) 
 
- You can open them and you will have Sundara for $149 /jk - that is exactly my intrusive thoughts, I didn’t know much about headphone so please don’t throw stone me till dead😂 
- Someone drill holes into them and let me know how it sounds. - you’d have to fully remove the wood cup, not just drill holes into it. 
- Headphones are not working anymore. Instructions weren’t clear. - No you just unlocked the pass through feature 
 
 
 
- I bought a set at that price; just waiting to unbox and set up. If they sound half as good as my 4xx’s, I will take that as a win. Hell, even my R7-DX’s sound pretty good comparatively, so I am not worried. EQ exists to balance out rough spots. 
- They look cool but sound terrible 
- 150 bucks lmao. They gave up quickly. - It’s 11/11 in China and everything is on sale. 11/11 is like the Chinese Black Friday 
 
- I’ve been using it, and I have a unique perspective. - So far, it’s the only headphones that actually fit around me big ears w/ hearing aids, while also being closed back. - I’ve wanted something to use on the train, and these work well! They let enough noise in so I know where my stop is, but not enough to hear the hustle and bustle. - My biggest issue with them, are the fact that any wind hitting the earcups, or really anything (rain, etc) will immediately make them go weird. - Rn I’m trying to decide if I wanna get a set of dt770s and try those (and return these, the earcup thing is kinda annoying) - Be aware that the cable of the 770 is very long and not detachable which would be uncomfortable for travelling I guess. There the 32 Ohm ones for drummers with a curled shorter cable that would work though. 
- Absolutely hated the 250ohm 770’s. I’d save your money for the next tier up or get IEMs if you can’t use open back - The uhh, only issue with IEMs - is having hearing aids. 
 
 
- Has anyone taken a pair of these and converted them to open back? Are they a different driver than the regular Sundara? 
- So I own these, just got them with the sale, and I have to say I actually enjoy them. The sound was more spacious then I would have expected coming off my AKG712 Pro or my ATH-RX70, two headphones, which I use fairly frequently. - There is definitely and interesting element to the soundstage and imaging, probably a result of it being planar, but I feel for most people it will be a preference if you like it or not. Which I think ultimately makes or breaks this headphone for a lot of people. - That said, coming off the 400HE my first and only other product from Hifiman I feel like if you have a choice between this or the open back, you are probably should go with the regular Sundara unless you just really need or want a closed back. - Same as this, I’m enjoying them. They’ll be for specific genres and/or when I can’t use open back but i don’t understand the hate I see so far. A little EQ makes a big difference too. 
 
- Compared to the R9 or R7 how do these compare! 
- Pretty awful, no matter the price. Extremely uneven treble, uneven midrange, the bass is ok. They sound completely off. - And yes, I’ve actually listened to them. 
- gonna buy it and see for myself if it is really as bad as others say it is, I can always return it or decide to keep it, I will let my own hearing make the decision for me. 
- They’re shite. 
- I own a pair and have listened to them extensively for the past week or so. There is a hump which makes some vocals feel too forward and instruments in the same frequency range ring slightly, but I’ve EQ’d this almost to extinction, and have also received a CustomCans mod kit today, that I’ll install this weekend. - After EQ, I’ve really got zero complaints! I’m running them balanced from a Hiby R5 Pro. They sound way better than my DT-990 Pro in all respects. I also have some well worn HD-650 and while they’re very very very different, they’re no less enjoyable. 650 for chilling, Sundara CB for feeling alive! - I think with a bit of EQ, these are a proper bargain! - Comfy, well made, punchy, detailed, fun, energetic, oh, and the bass drops like a bastard stone and is really detailed! - I like them, a lot! 
