i was comparing the qobuz version of Dirt by Alice in Chains with my vinyl pressing (both 2022 remasters) and i noticed that the digital version is a little too bright and it felt more compressed (drums in vinyl are more punchy). I am curious about why, especially about why the qobuz version sounds brighter.thanks

  • vixerquiz@alien.topB
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    Your missing something in your understanding of dynamics i think… your focused on total spl dynamics but there is an inner dynamic that alot of people seem to get confused about. If you look at the masterbus of a mix you have one continuous waveform. That waveform holds the information for all the instruments in the track. And there is only so much spectral information that can come out of your speaker at one time. What you hear in analog seeing as analog is essentially infinite medium is instruments dancing within their own dynamic ranges as opposed to digital which grabs everything together as a whole and tells it when to go up and down.

    The white noise you hear on lps is not “noise” in a traditional sense it’s “noise” that allows your cortex to fill in the gaps so to speak.

    The analog to digital digital to analog conversion has spent its entire existence trying to replicate the sound of being analog and to many people such as myself there is still something missing.

    The analog to digital conversion takes a waveform of infinite mathematical density and takes forty four thousand one hundred samples of voltage every second and depending on your bitrate, a certain amount of cpu memory is dedicated to the dynamic range between each of those individual samples of voltage. If your computer can’t think fast enough well thats distortion, if your in 192k and your file is 44.1 that’s distortion, if your computer needs an update that’s distortion, then you got compression algorithms, faulty wordclocks… half the time people don’t even realize that their digital files have been severely compromised because they can’t hear for shit anyway. Cds are 44.1 16bit and some of them sound fucking fantastic but vhynl still sounds better

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      1 year ago

      Can’t tell if sarcastic or not so for anyone reading (because people believe more ridiculous things when it comes to home audio), the groove on a vinyl record is just a waveform same as that which is output from the 2bus.

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        I dont know where your getting sarcasm… try to picture a waveform that’s connected directly to the analog source; perfect example is a seismagraph as it is the same technology… that is a waveform connected directly to the source of the energy in this case the rumblings of the earth. There is enough mathematical data within those waveforms to develop the Fast Fourier Transfer algorithm which is responsible for basically all computational process that happen today.

        Do you think if you replaced the smooth waveform data with jagged microscopic 90 degree angles ie (samples) the Fast Fourier transform would still work?

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          The things you’re saying only work if polyvinyl chloride is assumed to be a theoretically perfect medium, which it obviously isn’t.

          The white noise you hear on lps is not “noise” in a traditional sense it’s “noise” that allows your cortex to fill in the gaps so to speak.

          The surface noise is the sound of friction. It limits the medium’s ability to reproduce the audio recorded in the waveform.

          If your computer can’t think fast enough well thats distortion

          No, the computer being unable to process the bitstream leads to dropout, not distortion.

          if your in 192k and your file is 44.1 that’s distortion

          Upsampling doesn’t add distortion

          if your computer needs an update that’s distortion

          doesn’t make sense

          vhynl

          that’s what made me err on the side of sarcasm

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      What you hear in analog seeing as analog is essentially infinite medium is instruments dancing within their own dynamic ranges as opposed to digital which grabs everything together as a whole and tells it when to go up and down

      Bro what planet are you living on? This is a wild take and means nothing in the context of music production and recording.

      Analog vastly restricted dynamic range due to noise floor competition, and most of the flavor we like is a clamping down on dynamic range into total harmonic distortion. If anything digital recording has vastly increased the dynamic range possibilities that weren’t possible before in exchange for a very hard ceiling of loudness.

      I’d take a look inward for all your wild distortion problems. Half of those scenarios won’t cause distortion under like any circumstance.