Im joking really, im an audiophile myself with a decent hi fi set up that cost a few thousand dollars.

However, there is a subset of audiophiles that completely perplexes me. It just seems to me that at some stage, its no longer audiophilia (love of sound) but rather, some kind of neuroses where you have to control and make whatever you hear ‘pure’ or whatever it is. I worked in a psych ward years ago, and some of the stuff schizoprenics would say (about things being impure and such) echo alot of what I hear obsessive audiophiles say sometimes.

For example, theres audiophiles that would buy stuff like this:

https://www.toys4vip.com/en/luxury-toy/turntable/

A $133,000 turntable hooked up to a power conditioner, just so they can play a vinyl. I mean, this is fucking crazy right?

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    11 months ago

    I think an even better question is, how much do you have to charge for magic beans so that they call luxury retail instead of consumer fraud?

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    11 months ago

    Didn’t you mean to say “where does audiophile end […]”?

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    11 months ago

    Hobbies, enthusiast, and obsessive mental case are all points on the same spectrum merely separated by degree.

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    I constantly hear imagined artifacts (or real) in digital representations of material… I can’t hear the difference between 16 bit 44.1 and 24 192… but there is something that goes on with the initial transients, akin to there being some infinitely small sample wide clicking distortion at the peak of transients… also the instruments are much more likely to muddy eachother and compete for space in the frequency spectrum…

    But when I listen to vhynl or tape my brain is able to relax and just take it in because in those mediums even the wrong answers are right most of the Time. The instruments are able to sit within their perspective ranges more obviously.

    Now over the years fighting with all the different forms of digital distortion I have this constantly nagging feeling like something in the circuit is wrong… and that’s mostly just my own psyco somatic auditory process.

    My brain is hardwired to pick up any digital distortion so much so that even a hint of it removes me from the enjoyment immediately and must be dealt with… but the causes of lossy digital distortion are so vast any many that listening sessions often turn into troubleshooting sessions… but the “warmth” of vhynl and tape are undeniable and require no additional mental gymnastics because I can remain in a state of awe over the technology itself…

    They say that some infinities are bigger than others… idk about that but I do know within the walls of analog mediums there is a literal infinity. Digital is great in sooooo many ways but forever missing that little tinge of infinity

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    11 months ago

    I’ll refer you to one of the listed ‘cons’ for the what hifi review of the Audionote Ongaku (a £58,000 7 watt integrated valve amp, which tbf looked the business) from circa 2000.

    “If your hifi costs more than your house, you’re ill”

    (which came after the ‘pro’ ‘simply the best amplifier mankind can create’)

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    11 months ago

    Yeah, somebody buy a car for several hundred thousands, somebody buy a expensive watches and somebody buy a turntable… what is a difference? Why only a audiphiles are idiots when buy expensive gear?

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    A $133k turntable purchase isn’t mental illness, it’s bragging rights. They bought it because it was $133k. If there’d been a $150k model, they’d have bought that one instead.

    They probably don’t even listen to it unless there is someone to show it off to. They’re using Airpods on a diamond-bedazzled iPhone the rest of the time.

    Products like that exist only to relieve billionaires of some bucks. BRB, designing a new turntable.

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      11 months ago

      One of the most laughable products in the industry. The complex rationalizations that have developed to defend them are hilarious. If you don’t want to put your $X000 cables on the floor, that’s ‘audiophilia nervosa’.

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    11 months ago

    Definition: Health is not pure absence of disease. Instead it is a state of physical, mental and social welfare.

    That means if this makes negative impact on your work, family life, relations with people…it is an illness

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    Buying a $133k turntable is just a flex for someone with millions worth of disposable income, the sort of person who probably made more than $133k on their investments in the time it took to go purchase it. I mean if you have that sort of money then why not, I’m sure most of us here would buy stupid shit like that just for the fun of it if we hit an infinite money glitch.