I don’t understand why people buy these nice and expensive headphones only to use Spotify, arguably the worst quality music streaming service that exists. It sounds so bad compared to Apple Music, YouTube Music, Tidal, Deezer, or even Napster. At least you are getting lossless sound with those, it won’t be the same as having a ripped flac from a CD but anything is better than the AAC 128/320kbps that Spotify offers. It just bothers me when I see photos of headphones on this sub and then they have Spotify open in the background, I just can’t understand!

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    Hello there! I use Spotify and I would like to share why I use Spotify.

    Before I used Spotify, I used to download mp3s. I still have my mp3 files with me. When it felt like an inconvenience for me and always occupying my storage, I tried using Spotify and found it to be very convenient. At first, I didn’t pay for the premium subscription and used it to play Lo-Fi and random chill playlists. But as I’ve discovered new artists I genuinely love and have fallen in love with their music, I started to subscribe for the premium Spotify. From then on, more and more playlists have accumulated in my library.

    I think people use Spotify mostly because of convenience and popularity. Had I known about Apple Music’s existence on Android, I would’ve used it first. When I did, it was already too late. And! The average consumer like me doesn’t really have the itch to use lossless audio (I’m sorry to disappoint the folks here but I cannot tell the difference between lossless and 320 kbps audio quality).

    Music should be fun. It’s not always about peak quality and all. Back then, a lot of folks didn’t really care about things such as “high resolution audio” or the popular “lossless” audio. Cassette tapes and music played on the radio was enough for most of us back in the days.

    That’s all. Have a nice day!

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    I spent weeks comparing Tidal to Spotify. Sounded about the same to me. Some stuff I like better on Spotify and some stuff I like better on Tidal. I kept Spotify because I also listen to a lot of podcasts and Tidal is garbage for podcasts.

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    I use Spotify with my 4000$ DCA Stealth headphones.

    Why? Because the difference between 320 Kbps Ogg Vorbis and lossless is almost zero, very few people can tell the difference. I can’t. Spotify has nice apps that works well.

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      erence between mp3 320kbps and lossless, but everybody can hear good equipment vs bad equipment on either format. Just because people aren’t going endgame extracting everything the human senses can catch from sound waves doesn’t mean they’re dumb or wasting mone

      Anyone can tell the difference, you just have to train your ears for it my guy. It’s a big misconception that “not everyone can hear it”. If you don’t train your ears to hear the difference then you wont notice.

      That being said, do you love your current set up? Then fuck what I and everyone else thinks. As long as you enjoy your set up, then that’s all that matters.

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        Most people are not trained listeners so they can’t tell the difference. Even with training the difference is tiny and you’d have to listen very carefully to spot any differences. So it’s not a misconception.

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    I use Spotify now to find new music to listen to in the car lol

    Same with when I’m home, sure the quality isn’t great, but music is music 🤷

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    It sounds so bad compared to Apple Music, YouTube Music, Tidal, Deezer, or even Napster.

    First off, Youtube Music only does up to 256kbps AAC, which is similiar in quality to Spotify’s Ogg/Vorbis 320kbps.

    Secondly, if you’re on android, for example, and are not using Tidal or USB Audio Player PRO with Deezer or Qobyz, you’re never getting true lossless because everything is being resampled to 48 000 Hz.

    Also, not everybody can hear the difference between mp3 320kbps and lossless, but everybody can hear good equipment vs bad equipment on either format. Just because people aren’t going endgame extracting everything the human senses can catch from sound waves doesn’t mean they’re dumb or wasting money.

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      First off, Youtube Music only does up to 256kbps AAC, which is similiar in quality to Spotify’s Ogg/Vorbis 320kbps

      I just edited the post, I could have sworn it was lossless but you’re right.

      Just because people aren’t going endgame extracting everything the human senses can catch from sound waves doesn’t mean they’re dumb or wasting money.

      I don’t mean to make anyone sound dumb, truly. I don’t actually care what people use, it doesn’t concern me, however in my experience there is a huge difference between AAC and High Res FLAC and to be honest I thought everyone could tell the difference since it’s night and day for me

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        since it’s night and day for me

        Mind if I ask how did you A/B compare?

        A lot of times between different services (and sometimes in the same service), the lossy and lossless versions of songs come from completely different masters, so what you might be hearing is the different in the quality of the original production and not the different of compression.

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          Most of the time we’re really talking about the same master mixing target ending up in different formats, though. And although that’s usually different enough to hear, it’s not necessarily just better to hear the difference in quality of some of the sample tracks… or the quality of the noise, the filters on the microphone(and weaknesses of the microphone used), the scratching in the chair, hairs on the bow, flicking of valves, super high definition scratching on strings, and things like that.

          If people actually do dig up original mastering tapes to resample them to higher resolution than was done earlier - then that’s great, though. And if a composer or a producer ends up deliberately targeting loss-less with both their samples and then the final mixing target as well, then all of those things would of course add something here that you could potentially enjoy and listen to – that really would be different and better.

          But I don’t think that actually is what happens even some of the time. :p

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          On Android, Windows, and Linux I played a song on Spotify, then played a song with Tidal (Cider for Apple Music didn’t do lossless back then). I would pause and play on each and Tidal was just fuller sounding for every song I tested. Modern day Cider sounds better than Tidal now for some reason

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      Also, not everybody can hear the difference between mp3 3

      Somebody give this man a cookie, because you know your shit. It did not know about usb audio player pro until about 1 year ago. Now I am trully listening to lossless on my android phone (I use IEM or my btr7 for headphones).

      The L-Dac codec sony has going on sounds smooth~ I will settle for L-Dac any day vs 320 kbps.

      The

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    I have both Tidal and Spotify. I cannot reliably tell the difference between Tidal’s FLAC 16 bit 44.1kHz and Spotify’s very high setting once I volume match. Volume matching is huge in quality perception. Another possibility is that you straight up don’t have 320kbps enabled in Spotify settings and are hearing the ultra compressed lower res versions which do make a big difference. I also have some extremely transparent and high-end headphones, so the gear isn’t the limiting factor.

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    I’d be really embarrassed by doing this thread if I were you. Power of suggestion is so strong in this hobby.

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      I’m 26, 10 years into hifi, my hearing is regularly checked and it’s perfect, I have (and had) tons of hifi equipment, and everybody saying that he can hear a difference, is basically lying. That because I do (on specific songs or songs part), and the difference is so tiny is laughable. Also I’m sure actually nobody can’t do this test, and I have never seen someone doing so. Me neither of course. So everytime I see this kind of post I just make a laugh about it.

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        0 years into hifi, my hearing is regularly checked and it’s perfect, I have (and had) tons of hifi equipment, and everybody saying that he can hear a difference, is basically lying. That because I do (on specific songs or songs part), and the difference is so tiny is laughable. Also I’m sure actually nobody can’t do this test, and I have never seen someone doing so. Me neither of course. So everytime I see this kind of post I j

        Try not to get offended on what I am about to say, but you lack the experience.

        This comment will come off as a butt hurt elitist, but down the road, if you really do give a danm, you will have reached a point where you will think “danm I was so wrong”.

        I know I sound like a silly person, You will know what I mean when you get there…or not.

        If you know, you know.

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          I’m not offended and you might be right to think that, but I’ve never came across someone who on a blind test can know the difference between lossless and a good mp3, that’s it. Not a single one. Lot of talks but nobody did that. Ever. Prove me wrong and then I will be happy to look silly and I will continue my journey until I get there too.

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            me way shape or form for the most part it’s still in flag quality and the alteration isn’t always a bad thing it’s just a matter of pref

            stay woke

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        Also IMO if the ABX score Isn’t 100% then it means that the difference is not that big.
        Since they usually say “nIGHT anD daY difFerEnce” or something like that.

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    Because they sound the same. Go take an ABX test on foobar2000, Opus 192kbps vs lossless.

    Pd: I’m happy most people in this sub is audiopilled and not placebopilled.

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    Eh, i don’t care really, youtube music is good enough for me, it has everything my super weird and nieche music taste likes, and it doesn’t sound horrible, do i get the best quality music? no.
    But you could make the same argument for cars, why do people buy 600hp cars or 200+ hp motorcycles when they can only go up to 130km/h (ignoring german gigachads here), precisely because even if you get limited you can still have more fun with it

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    I’d prefer lossless, sure, but the library is more important to me. I tried Tidal, but it was missing several artists I wanted and then the whole MQA controversy meant I wasn’t really getting lossless anyway. Not touching Apple Music with a 10 foot pole because I don’t use Apple devices and they actively spite users on other platforms.

    At the end of the day, I prefer my own FLAC copies anyway, but Spotify fills in when I want to listen to something I don’t have.

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      So what I plan on doing is setting up Navidrome on my home server and using InnerTune on Android to use YouTube Music for free