Yeah I am treble sensitive so I find them highly fatiguing. Which is a shame because I do think they sound great… For 5 minutes until my ears hurt. EQ helps but I got annoyed fiddling with the settings.

And yeah I really recommend something like EMU Teaks for sub bass. Like you said open backs usually can’t extend that low unless you’re blasting the volume haha.

As someone with a clear I really disagree. If you are a basshead there are better options.The bass is fine but the clears are 1.) Very fatiguing and 2.) Can’t handle bass EQ without the drivers distorting at a certain point.

No HD 600 series Sennheiser is worth nearly $500 these days in my opinion. That’s creeping into better can territory quite a bit.