https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-quality/passive-soundstage
Are you invalidating all of these measurements?
Saying that technicalities cannot be measured?
You guys sure do measure an apple dongle and say is all you really need.
But when it comes to technicalities everyone agrees that they are subjective?
Can technicalities of a Headphone not be measured?
eeeeh not sure tbh. i’ve seen headphones with decent FR that sounded like smeary horseshit, for example moondrop chu.
Why does everyone say they are subjective?
cuz everybody has different ears and everybody thinks that what they hear is the end-all be all. but to answer your question: technicalities is not subjective.
Are you invalidating all of these measurements?
ratings are useless. i only want raw frequency respons graphs.
Saying that technicalities cannot be measured?
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You guys sure do measure an apple dongle and say is all you really need.
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But when it comes to technicalities everyone agrees that they are subjective?
unfortunately not everybody agrees on this.
cuz everyone has diff sized and shaped head and ears.
Ratings are useless cause they are undoubtedly biased.
The only reliable thing we have are FR graphs … and even those are changing with the B&K 5128 measurements …
Honestly, this whole conversation about technicalities is annoying because the people posting about it are obviously biased … which is ironic, pedantic, and hypocritical.
Technically yes to the first question. Because they are ignorant to the second, but also because there isn’t any top flight engineering data that’s released to the public comparing hundreds of different headphones. The measurements we have go a long way but fall just short of the whole picture. With that said though we do generally have enough information available to us to say, somewhat definitively, that these woo woo snake oil drinking enthusiasts have no idea what they’re talking about the vast majority of the time when they speak on “the subjectivity of technicalities”.
Every single physical aspect on the acoustic properties of a headphone can be measured and the sum of those measurements would reveal its “technicalities”. How this physical performance is perceived varies person to person due to both physiological and psychological differences, though that doesn’t mean the physical properties of the instrument are subjective whatsoever. I implore you read everything you can on the research done by Floyd Toole and Sean Olive, you’ll quickly realize how moronic people are who take SIGHTED subjectivity seriously.
Because no matter what everyone can hear different things then when the technicalities are totally the same. For you a headphone might be perfect, crafted by God’s own hands and other might call it hot garbage.
i think there’s a statistical and slightly blurry baseline below which something is going to be amiss and above which people will generally spot a difference. thereafter it’s preference.
The way Rtings attempts it is an interesting metric but not one I’d take overly seriously. Ananda and HD800S being ranked next to each other is just lol
It depends on so many factors that are outside a designers control. Shape of the listeners ear, age of the listeners ear, musical taste and EQ preference. I mean you can dial in a lot of but just those 4 things can dramatically change what headphones listener prefers.
We can measure everything there is to measure, but understanding how the measurements relate to a human experience is harder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tBKhg-brBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIoNMeo_GI