Just based on the glowing reviews of the Wiim Pro Plus out there, I had to check it out. I also want to test out multiple theories on SQ since everyone has a different theory. $219 is not a whole lot of price to pay for satisfying curiosity.
The second reason is I am an android phone user and one of my music apps outside of Tidal is not supported by most platform so best I can do is Chromecast, which still gets me 96/24bit.
Build quality goes easily to the Node. It’s feels more substantial and of course it has sub-out, and HDMI ARC-in. For now I don’t use these features however.
UI/Software: tie. With the recent BluOS update, I think it fixed a lot of the issues. But since I am streaming only (no local files) and I am android user, the win goes to the Wiim Pro. I don’t use EQ a lot but it’s nice to have the more extensive EQ opiton on the Wiim if you want to tinker.
Sound quality: I am still debating. There a recent Youtuber that said Node n130 sounds slightly better. I tend to agree? I made an earlier post saying that I didn’t hear any sonic downgrade. The days leading up to my sell of the Node, I did some non-blind, but volume matched, A/B testing, switching Coax and optical for both devices so as to be fair, using both direct out and also using connecting them both to my budget headphone DAC/Amp (SMSL DL200), but listening on my main speakers. Overall, and I don’t if I am influenced by psychology and other factors, what I heard was slightly better instrument separation, clarity and resolution on the Node than Wiim (whether analog out or as pure digital transport); slight but noticeable (again, it’s so slight that it could just be in my head).
So why did I still sold the Node (at a 40% loss)?
-- it is not because I need the money or I don’t understand marginal utility, I did consider keeping both around to experimentation, but:
- some people think that streamer doesn’t affect SQ at all – I am still not at that extreme but in this case the difference (if any) is no way worth 3 times the price (or times even taking into account a 40% discount)
- it seems that connecting to an higher-end external DAC would be even better SQ (if that is to be believed – another controversial topic)
- I think if I really want to Node again, I can buy one used at about the same price I am selling for, and prices will just drop further in the future as more product launches
- for my use cases, I value the convenience of the Wiim platform (again non-iphone/Apple/Roon user), which slightly edges out BluOS
- I am curious about other products, such as Node X and Eversolo DMPA6 – I also my move to an active streaming speaker or a higher end streaming amp, which probably will make the Node redundant – and it seems like manufacturers are and will be flooding the markets with such streaming DACs that in a year or so, there will be a lot of second hand unit that’s of high quality to choose from, the Wiim Pro Plus does well enough to hold me over in the interim.
- not to mention Wiim seems to be a great company and at this rate I don’t see why they cant come up with a Wiim Pro Plus 2 or something at a even higher price point that fully competes higher end products.
For now, I do miss the Node a little and I think the SQ of my system has went from a score of 75/100 to 73/100 (slight). But I thin given all of the above I still made the right move.
Streaming device = aka PC. Only good ones are the all in 1 types like fiio r7
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Love my Wiims have a pro and a plus, use the plus for 192 kHz from Amazon and qobuz and the pro for chromecast through my home group through throughout the house both sound awesome but the plus is killer, friends are impressed , Apps great and I love presets on remotes, my wife can turn on receiver hit a preset on the pro and it plays!!! She’s simple minded with this stuff. Like the look of the eversolo a6 but they are 900 buck and the a8 is gonna be 1500 or so?
Streamers make a difference if the power supply is well isolated from the digital bits/processing. I’ve compared Sonos, Node, Lumi and my ultimate solution.
That’s where you notice the biggest difference. The act of streaming is similar. This is where the theory of it’s all the same are true.
I found the Wiim mini very poor sounding compared to my Raspi w/ Allo Digione Sig. feeding the same DAC. The Wiim software is excellent though.
So much of the streamers are wasted build quality though. Pre amp features or unnecessary DACs or more aluminum chassis than needed. A good galvanic isolation from the processor is all that is needed for a good streamer IMHO.
I have the original node N100 , bought it in 2015. Last year I bought a wiim mini, because the Node got unstable on wifi.
But the Wiim mini was not without problems either… so after some arrangements I managed to wire the Node to the network, and it works 100% Now.
My Node is now 8 years old, still works fine on ethernet and is updated regularly. Very impressive. Sounds good, better than the mini, I think.
But I suspect the pro plus is very good also